Conversation 039 – Vaishnava Sampradayas (Tradition/Spiritual Lineage)

This conversation based on my yesterday’s post – Interpretations to Post 40: Sri Vishnu Sahasranamam with an advanced devotee from Russia, living in ISKCON, Vrindavan and is of the renounced order:

Seeker 2: Hare Krishna! This is my latest post:

Seeker 2: Interpretations to Post 40: Sri Vishnu Sahasranamam

Seeker 2: Please read it and let me know what you think about it.

Seeker 1: Hare Krishna! Nice article. Do you know according to sastras chanting 1000 times Visnu sahasranam is the same as chanting 1 time name of Lord Rama; and chanting 3000 times Visnu Sahasranam is the same as chanting 1 time Hare Krishna maha-mantra.

Seeker 1: Isvara uvaca: “Sri rama rameti rame manorame, sahasra nama tatulyam rama nama varanine”. Lord Siva addressed Parvati: “Varanana (lovely-faced woman), I chant the holy name of Rama, Rama, Rama and thus constantly enjoy this beautiful sound. This holy name of Ramachandra is equal to one thousand holy names of Lord Vishnu (Vishnu-sahasra-nama-strotram).

Seeker 1: Srila Prabhupad wrote in a letter: Without cleansing the mind, nobody can advance in spiritual understanding. And chanting of the Hare Krishna Mahamantra is the cleansing process of mind. Further Prabhupad said: There is no difference between, chanting Hare Krishna and meeting Krishna eye to eye, face to face. One simply has to realize.

Seeker 2: Actually it is a short cut mentioned for those who don’t want to spend time chanting 1000 names. There is also a calculation based on the syllables of the word ra ma.

Seeker 2: The feelings that one gets after chanting the 1000 names is incomparable. The vibration and the rhythm of the combination of names arranged like a garland and the flow is a bliss for those who chant it.

Seeker 2: Srila Prabhupada ji’s intention is to create the right mindset among common people to introduce to chanting the holy names of Lord Shri Krishna. Hare Krishna mahamantra is the simplest and most potent of all.

Seeker 2: Every sampradaya (spiritual lineage) is unique in its interpretations but the final destination is the name.

Seeker 2: Gaudiya sampradaya says Lord Shri Krishna is supreme while Sri Ramanuja or Sri Sampradaya says Lord Sriman Narayana is supreme.

Seeker 2: These subtle variations interfere between people moving across various sampradaya or spiritual lineage.

Seeker 2: People who are ingrained in their sampradaya for generations don’t change their sampradaya but accept other sampradaya’s permises based on their equivalence of approach and have healthy debates.

Seeker 2:

Seeker 2: This is the calculation behind the power of the name Rama!

Seeker 2: Hare Krishna!

Seeker 2: Yes thank you very much for reaffirming. on Rama Naamaa. I started chanting Hare Krishna mahamantra after my first ever visit to any Iskcon Temple, it was in Singapore in 2004-2005 and since then Hare Krishna mahamantra has become a part of me. It’s so simple, so sweet, so beautiful, so powerful, so captivating to heart, so blissful, so relishable, the more I chant I couldn’t feel satiated… chanting along with Sri Vishnu Sahasranamam I am what I am because of the synergistic effects.

Seeker 2: Hare Krishna!

Seeker 2: All the primary 24 expansions of Lord Shri Krishna is arranged in a beautiful sequence at appropriated places in Sri Vishnu Sahasranamam.

Seeker 2: The appearance of Sri Chaitanya mahaprabhu is also mentioned in Sri Vishnu Sahasranamam:

Seeker 2: “Suvarna-varno hemango varangas-candanangadi”. “When Krsna appears as Sri Caitanya (Sri Gauranga), in His early pastimes His complexion is golden (suvarna-varna), His limbs are the color of molten white gold (hemanga), His body is extremely beautiful (varangas), and He is decorated with sandalwood pulp (candanangadi).”

Seeker 2: This is sloka number 79 in Sri Vishnu Sahasranaamam.

Seeker 2: I feel very blessed to have been associated with pure devotees like you and able to share these beautiful things that I am unable to speak to anyone around me.

Seeker 2: I sometimes feel I don’t’ belong here but I am bound by commitments due to the illusory energy of Lord Shri Krishna.

Seeker 2: Hunger, thirst – nothing seems to have any impact on me when I write on Krishna, read on Krishna or think on Krishna.  I am not able to find the reasons behind it.

Seeker 1: Thank you for sharing whatever you write and having these conversations.

Seeker 1: You don’t need to change anything. All four sampradayas are genuine. You are on the right path. There is no doubt about this.

Seeker 2: Thank you very much. Hare Krishna!

The Universe That is God: An Insight into the Thousand Names of Lord Visnu

Author: Rajini

"Knowledge is the ultimate perfection of self-realization.". (Srimad Bhagavatham 3.26.2) Trying to seek that knowledge through life experiences that leads to compassion, dispassion and ultimately satisfaction.

4 thoughts on “Conversation 039 – Vaishnava Sampradayas (Tradition/Spiritual Lineage)”

  1. The question is, the other syllables like Ka, ga, Cha,etc also have numbers associated to them (1 to 9 through 0)..it’s called Katapayadi Sutram. It is from this Sutram that we deduce the name of JAYA ( core text of Mahabharata) to be 18. Now, let us say, if I take those syllables with numerical value 2 and 5 and combine, do I get same effect as uttering Rama Nama? Example: kha and Na (end letter of ‘ta’group) Where and what are we missing in this deduction from above post?

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    1. I also note the numbers play a very vital role in Sri Vishnu Sahasranamam particularly the numbers 0,1,4 and 7. I intend to mention their significance sometime in a later post. thank you very much for the pointing thos. yes the same concept of 2 and 5 RaMa naama that made acharyas to mention us to chant the sloka Sri Rama Rama Ramethi just 3 times and it is equivalent to chanting the entire Sri Vishnu Sahasranamam once as i have mentioned in the illustration in this post.

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