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Bhagavad Gita Work – Attempt to work comprehensively by giving each sloka due weightage.
Srimad Bhagavatham Work: Enhance knowledge in Sanskrit – A novel attempt to identify the 10 Sargas across all the 12 cantos and an attempt to create 10 chapters with due reference.
Give importance to the mother tongue Tamil (hitherto un-touched) by working on and translating the English blog posts as well as provide specific content to the target audience.
This Seeker 2 seeks all the best wishes and blessings from all the bloggers / casual readers for this task.
My ardent prayers to:
The Goddess of Learning Goddess Saraswathi,
Srila Vyasadeva – The literary incarnation of The Supreme Personality of Godhead, Compiler of Vedas
Lord Shiva – The Lord of Material Nature and False Ego.
All the controllers and the maintainers of the various entities of this material universe.
All Spiritual Masters and disciples of All Sampradayas
All material entities – Living – moving and non-moving, Non-Living – objects devoid of life-force / soul.
All your words of encouragement in the form of likes and comments will be invigorating to me to provide significant impetus to this seemingly insurmountable task.
This conversation is between a middle-aged person and his
mother discussing about detachment, surrender and on achieving liberation from
this material existence.
Seeker 2: Even if people knows about their problems very
well, they do not make an attempt to fix it but do something else to get
diverted away from it temporarily, will the problem go away by itself?
Seeker 2: I was just lying in a sofa without doing anything
for two hours pondering about my issues and now only getting a bit fresh and
you came to meet me.
Seeker 2: I understand that Krishna is doing everything for a reason and hence I have no regrets. Only the external mind is undergoing everything and affecting the soul that is foolishly attached to the mind.
Seeker 1: Hmm. I am thinking of how I was at the age of 35
to 45.
Seeker 2: I say don’t think about it because it will only
give you pain considering the facilities for learning available now and available
then and still people not making use of it!
Seeker 2: No use talking and praising about self-achievements.
Does that change the present situation? Only by understanding the reality and
endeavour to come out of these situations every time and learning from the
experiences to face new situations can one survive in this present hostile
world.
Seeker 2: You always say this situation will change and yes
it will and it does. It may change for the better or for the worse but one
should be equipoised in both the situations because we should understand that
certain things are beyond our control.
Seeker 1: Yes!
Seeker 2: Krishna says to Arjuna in Bhagavad Gita: wise people do not lament either for the
living or for the dead. Arjuna (Nara) is a human incarnation of Lord Vishnu
/ Lord Krishna (Naaraayanaa) but still has to undergo these kinds of situations,
what are we compared to him?
Seeker 2: Srimad Bhagavatham mentions how Vidura was overtaken by grief because of his brother and his sons who acted without virtue throughout their life and how Uddhava was unable to handle the separation of Krishna but both Vidura and Uddhava were equipoised despite their difficult situations because both of them knew the science of God.
Seeker 1: Yes, the wheel of time is always spinning. It is
not always at the bottom; it has to come to the top.
Seeker 2: If you do not find people with like disposition, for few moments negative thoughts always come up but only Krishna can give the intelligence to come out of these situations. There is no use worrying about anyone or anything. Everyone is destined to face their situations and they have to ultimately come out of it by their own endeavours.
Seeker 2: Knowing this if you still get depressed then what do we learn from our past experiences? Trying to get out of these relationships and live impartially is the only means to attain liberation. Realising birth and death process is a biggest pain and getting away from it is the biggest knowledge, everything else is useless!
Seeker 1: What to do, I am an ordinary human being?
Seeker 2: Everybody is ordinary only. Going beyond and
realising these facts is what makes humans different from animals!
Seeker 1: Yes, that is too hard. Blood is thicker than
water.
Seeker 2: Tell me how did your mother live? Have you seen her getting attached to anyone or anything? Tell me this and your answer will tell if she is a good candidate for liberation.
Seeker 1: How shall I tell this? She was hard of hearing and
that was somewhat advantageous to her, but she was very intelligent.
Seeker 2: Yes. Still she was also a human being like us with
emotions, relationships, eyes that can see all the nonsense happening around
and understand what is going on. Right?
Tell me based on this!
Seeker 1: She always use to say I have to leave this world
when everyone of you is in a good position. That was her prayer all the time.
Seeker 2: There is nothing special in this. Everyone wishes that only. Being in a good position is only a relative concept. If people around you are greedy and envious, every situation is bad and unfortunate. Most people are not contented with how much ever they have got or how much ever they have achieved in their life.
Seeker 1: Yes. She has never gotten angry with anyone or anything anytime, never acting with emotions, always treating everyone equally, revering her husband for whatever he may have done. Always getting up very early and doing her duties wholeheartedly and without any grudge, not getting envy or jealous of anyone, not lazy any time, always very good and works really hard to full satisfaction of everyone – all these characteristics were there.
Seeker 2: All these are certainly divine characteristics of godly people.
All our characteristics are certainly determined and tested at the time of
death for sure, only based on that one gets a next birth or not in this
material universe. If one has leftover desires even subtle, still there is no escape
from next birth!
Seeker 2: One should not desire next birth at any cost. This
is the biggest blunder because what one gets as the next birth is determined by
what one did so far and is not according to one’s own whims and fancies. So
somehow one has got to get detached from this material world, though extremely
difficult but not impossible.
Seeker 2: That is why maam
ekam saranam vraja is the biggest secret, often mentioned by learned
authorities as secret of all secrets!
Seeker 1: Yes, I will try my level best.
Seeker 2: Yes, all of us should yearn and strive for that.
Performing fruitive activities, going to temple yearning for material rewards
or accomplishments etc are useless activities aimed at degradation of the soul.
They are all to be considered as mere rituals and hence only leads to bondage. Unless
one renounce everything from the bottom of the heart, liberation cannot be
attained.
This is really a lengthy conversation with my best friend. I am breaking it into multiple posts for our convenience. Thank you very much for reading!
Seeker 1: Have you heard about ISHA Kriya and their program on Inner Engineering?
Seeker 2: Yeah … I have heard about it.
Seeker 2: Most people blindly get into these kinds of things
in the name of yoga and meditation because they are unable to manage stress in
their life but want relief through some shortcut means.
Seeker 2: Nobody wants to put sincere efforts by subjecting
their body and be self-controlled. With no proper diet control nothing can be
ever achieved!
Seeker 2: If one says inner engineering is possible for anyone that means he is only interested towards money making by trying to exploit these kinds of people. However, if he is scrutinizing in selecting people for the program he is genuinely interested in the welfare of the people. Otherwise the tendencies of these modern day “gurus” is to cheat with false promises just to extract money for their establishment.
Seeker 1: What is the best way then? Is this the only way?
Do you know the best diet control? I believe it again changes from person to
person based on body type. It’s not possible for every human being?? Why not if one practice it?
Seeker 2: People have to throw away their bad habits first (primarily intoxication, meat eating, gambling and unregulated sex habits) and be sober for quite a while before indulging into inner engineering or things like that. Otherwise whatever one tries, his efforts will not be effective.
Seeker 2: Most “gurus” starts with strict principles in the beginning but gets diluted midway because the profit motive and “preaching according to the nature of people” comes into picture. Original intentions and the principles will get slowly lost in the course of time and in the name of flexibility and advertisements and with constant pestering for donations in the name of introducing philanthropy to common people by bring a false hope that one can compensate for bad karma in the name of these kind of donations!
Seeker 2: One is going to reap for whatever one has done no matter what, if not from this birth, from all the previous births! People are not aware of basic principles and without any basic knowledge on scriptures do everything nonsense and blame everything as they continue to struggle with problems in life. This includes the so called educated who claims they know everything but in practicality, their life is only oriented towards money making and gaining high positions in society, which are all temporary and do not lead to any higher purpose either in this life or after death!
Seeker 1: Hahaha … nicely said though! But my basic
question remain what is best diet plan and how to find that plan suits one’s
body??? If everything our moods/ emotions / thoughts are dependent on what one
eats???
Seeker 2: Yes, surely it gradually builds over the years.
Seeker 1: What is the best diet plan and how to get to it
without any complications?
Seeker 2: Mainly because food is also classified into three modes and so one becomes what one eats!
Seeker 2: Yes – Goodness, Passion and Ignorance or Sattvic, Rajasic
and Tamasic.
Seeker 1: Yeah. All is mentioned in Bhagavad Gita. One should ignore Tamasic and Rajasic types of food? That is best one to follow…
Seeker 2: Yes, Different types of food and how one is according to what one eats! If one does not read and live according to Bhagavad Gita his life is really a failure in spiritual terms!
You have a specific mission for each of your incarnations,
You descend on to the planets out of your own will.
Everything is playtime for you,
You are not bound by any injunctions.
Because you are the cause of all causes,
You don’t have any specific cause or need of your own.
You are equal to everyone.
You are the supreme controller of everything in all the material universes,
But you are controlled by the unconditional love of your pure devotees.
Pure devotees understand your unequivocal statement of total surrender as in “Maam Ekam Saranam Vraja” in your Bhagavad Gita 18.66.
Pure devotees find it very difficult to survive in this present world though Krishna is always on their lips all the time,
When you always give your remembrance to them what else do they need now and forever?
Your name transcends them beyond hunger thirst bodily relationship material wealth and even the dreaded death dreaded by common souls,
You take care of their minimalistic needs since you are the protector of even the most insignificant creatures, After all how long this materialistic possession will last?
Only Your grace and mercy is permanent!
You are so simple in Your demands that all You want is full devotion with offer of little flower fruit leaf or water.
You are always ready to give us the maximum benediction and what is that?
To cross this ocean of material misery to the other side.
Let’s all pray to Krishna to be satisfied with what we have materialistic and yearn for spending lots of time towards spiritual knowledge and prayers that aims us towards achieving the higher purpose of life…
Seeker 2: I know you don’t have lunch…but did you had anything today?
Seeker 1: Ohhh you remember that……..yeah, I had something in the
morning…
Seeker 2: I remember almost everything…that is my biggest problem ☹
Seeker 1: 😊
Seeker 2: Forgetfulness is really good and very beneficial in so many
ways…
Seeker 2: I also have this peculiar habit that aggravates this 😊
I note it down somewhere as soon as I realise when something wrong happens or
if I am hurt by someone. So, I can’t forget it because I tend to refer to them
at some point…that always serves as a reminder when I have to interact with
that person again…which happens almost all the time ☹
Seeker 1: Haha!
Seeker 2: That’s why I can almost relate to everyone and everything since
my school days…and with the 16-companies and the people I worked with. I have
contacts all over the place..i have close to 1100 contacts in my LinkedIn
(LOL).
Seeker 2: You wouldn’t believe I can tell the names of all my classmates
from my 11th/12th class in ascending order even now 😊…I
am not sure I told you this before. There were 29 of them…
Seeker 1: No, you haven’t spoken me about this…
Seeker 2: Oh okay…I told this list in our reunion at school few years
back and they were stunned and couldn’t believe my craziness 😊
Seeker 1: ohh great! 😊
Seeker 2: Every day everyone hears the list of the class by the class
teacher while taking the attendance and it involuntary went inside me but not into
everyone 🙂
Seeker 1: Interesting! 🙂
Seeker 2: I mean one’s memory could be developed in so many ways…all we
need to do is to listen…
Seeker 2: For example, remembering all the 1000 names of Lord Vishnu in Sri Vishnu Sahasranamam does serve lots of purposes…which I was very fortunate by the grace of my parents who made me to attend a class at a nearby place and made me learn it by heart during my 6th standard holidays and that has been my constant companion since then…That has been and will always be my biggest saviour in all circumstances…Any time any place any situation….
Seeker 2: It always reminds us that there is always a supreme person who is a supreme protector with supreme qualities. Just thinking about all those qualities as is in these names will inspire us to develop that quality at least to a minute extent that would enable us to develop as a conscious individual.
Seeker 2: Otherwise we are continuing to get caught up with the
situations that has been created by us only and thinking we can get out of
every situation by ourselves!!!
Seeker 2: Just think on this aspect and if this really appeals to you,
you are really apart from the rest of the crowd…I see you as a person of a
different level and category since the first time I met you and that’s why I am
saying this… otherwise I have no reasons to say these things to anyone…I tell
you this..
Seeker 2: There are just three categories or people, or you can say
just stages in our existence(if at all one is fortunate to navigate from one
level to the next level)…
Seeker 2: Exist…Live…Realise
Seeker 2: Exist are those who don’t have the reason or knowledge
to comprehend what and why things are happening to them or to people around
them…
Seeker 2: Live are those who knows a little bit of what and why
things are happening around them and learn to live with them but they don’t
have the means to go beyond them…
Seeker 2: Realise are those who is able to comprehend what is the real truth behind everything…why things are happening…Who is behind all this…to go beyond that to realise that there is no actual thing as happiness or sorrow in this world and everything just passes…
Seeker 2: These are the three real categories of people or existence.
Seeker 2: So, it is through our own efforts and sacrifices to reach or achieve which states of existence we want to be in or want to become.
Seeker 2: All I say now are coming out of my spontaneous learnings and realisations. If you have heard these things from anyone else please do let me know. I would be really privileged to be submissive and learn and know more from him/her further. I know but I can’t say this in much simpler terms than this…
Seeker 2: This is the entire summary of my learning all these years,
primarily from two scriptures, Shrimad Bhagavad Gita and Srimad Bhagavatham.
Seeker 2: I don’t know why I am saying this to you only but I do and could relate to people as to what are their expectations in their life are. And say these to only those kinds of people of that calibre to comprehend these aspects…
Seeker 2: Age does not matter here. Only mental maturity matters!
Seeker 2: I will say even my six-year-old kid is more mentally mature to deal with situations and knows lot of these aspects in the form of Krishna Katha as described in 10th Canto of Srimad Bhagavatham and also the detailed reasons and activities behind the 10 incarnations of Lord Vishnu in various cantos of Srimad Bhagavatham that even the 25 years old+ colleagues of yours cannot… 😦 He will also be able to narrate the entire events and the characters in the first canto of Srimad Bhagavatham…Just lending one’s ears is all that matters…
Seeker 2: Most of what I said is in that recorded conversation/interview in Tamil that day, I know hardly anyone will pay any attention to it…People don’t know what is important for life and what is not. No one can help it 🙂 Even the Gods can’t help it as Krishna himself says it, unless one realises these aspects by one’s own efforts, this is not going to happen!
Seeker 2: Do read this again in your leisure and let me know.
<<sometime later>>
Seeker 1: I think I would be on PIP (Performance Improvement Plan) now…
and these people are not giving me anything to work …
Seeker 2: Don’t bother about anything…that’s all I can say…Good for
you…
Seeker 1: No, it’s not good ☹
Seeker 2: That means it is very much possible for them to ask you to
leave the place without you having to serve notice period for 3 months 😊
Seeker 1: I have never faced this kind of issues with me before…everything
is going against me these days…
Seeker 2: As if I have faced these kind of things before (LOL)…I have been a top performer in all companies throughout my career…you can check all my projects and all the teams that I had led…I had never let down any company I worked with nor the teams that I handled any time…and i had always been a kind of a father figure in my later days or an elder brother all the time during my early days…
Seeker 2: Seriously 🙂
Seeker 2: If you end up in a pathetic company with a pathetic work culture, you are not to be blamed for it…
Seeker 2: Still there are places based on your approach and skills you
will be respected for what you are…otherwise you should have the skills and
guts in you to quit and go for somewhere else… whenever you see any
irregularities…
Seeker 2: I quit every time whenever my reputation was at stake and someone else was readily willing to offer me a position all the time till now…otherwise I would not have end up in 16 different places in 20 odd years… 🙂
Seeker 1: But no one is willing to take me at this time…
Seeker 2: Same with me either ☹ Time will surely change… I can’t give you much more motivation on this because we have already spoken on this quite a lot and you have also come to a good mindset to handle it, I guess…
Seeker 2: I don’t want you to look at my present situation and empathize with me because that is not going to solve anything, similar is your situation on me empathizing with you…
Seeker 2: I can and I only want to be a good well-wisher and support to you at this time for reasons I really don’t know…as to why i am paying this much special attention…
Seeker 2: Just got to realise that the present cause is for a long-term
effect and we are going through everything in phases just like how we go from a
temporary stage from a baby to a boy/girl to a teenager to an adult and so on…
Seeker 2: and everything is in continuation from what was before…these things are really very hard to take in for normal people but as i said if one attempts to transcend to the third category, then these situations are to be taken as God-sent as to how to handle these things to enable us to realise the real purpose and the result that is to come out of the present situation…
Seeker 2: I am just saying these things to you because this is the
reality and if you are able to take this…you will realise that there is a
purpose to anything that is happening and not get entangled with situations
that are not the actual reality but appear to be real!
I must say that this conversation happened only because of
the divine will of Lord Lakshmi Narayana in this temple that I visit almost
every day. Otherwise, there could be no other reason!
This conversation took place on 04-July-2019 but I am able
to make the full transcript only now.
There is this reporter of a prominent spiritual magazine in
Tamil language (name asked to be kept in anonymity), who happened to see me and
recognize me. He happened to visit the temple that day. He stopped me right on
the road and wanted to converse with me. The conversation (Tamil translated to
English) goes like this:
Seeker 1(Reporter)
Seeker 2(Rajini (myself))
Seeker 1: I am a reporter from this magazine in Tamil. We
focus mainly on spiritual subjects. I have been a regular follower of your blog
and I see that you are nearing 150 posts, that is really a big achievement!
Seeker 2: Thank you very much. I am very glad that you are
regularly checking on my blog posts.
Seeker 1: It is my pleasure. I note that you have good
knowledge on scriptures, particularly Bhagavad Gita, Srimad Bhagavatham,
Thirukural etc.
Seeker 2: 😊 Please don’t say that. I am only a learner…
Seeker 1: I find that you have written a lot and covered a
lot of topics in depth. I want you to summarise based on all that you have
written on the present attitude of people in general and what could be done about
it.
Seeker 2: 😊we are standing on the road and do you want
to talk about it right here?
Seeker 1: I am really sorry. I respect the value of time and
so we cannot afford to go to my office to have discussion at this point of
time.
Seeker 2: That’s really very nice of you! Okay, then we
shall go to this isolated kind of annexure to this temple. I call it the
ant-hill Lord Lakshmi Narayanan 😊. I am usually here most of the time because
this is solitary and peaceful for prayers. No one ever comes here inside 😊
Seeker 1: Sure.
Seeker 1: I am recording what you are saying for my
interpretations. I hope this is fine with you. I would share the recording with
you after sometime. I think the recording is likely to be interspersed with lot
of traffic noise because of our location, but I think that doesn’t matter.
Seeker 2: Sure. But One thing I want to tell you. This is
the place where I meditate regularly. So, I might get into a sort of trance at
some point of time as I watch Lord Lakshmi Naarayanaa and speak on the answer😊
and say anything as ordained that time, you may note some subtle changes in my
voice etc., but I would sincerely request you to take note of the validity of
whatever I say and use it for the benefit of everyone.
Seeker 1: Sure, I will.
Seeker 2: Before I answer on what you have asked, I dedicate
whatever that I had to say, advertently or inadvertently to Goddess Saraswathi
because She is the source of all knowledge, She is the object of all knowledge
and also She is the destination of all knowledge. I also seek the blessings of
the source of everything, Lord Naarayanaa and His eternal consort Goddess
Mahalakshmi.
Seeker 2: People, why you are running around here and there all
the time? Where do you actually want to go from here? What big things are you
doing in this world that is of really of any significance or benefit to anyone
or anything? What???
Seeker 2: Same running around all the time…same
sleeping…same waking up…same eating…same work…day in and day out…
Seeker 2: When is this all going to end?… Is this work that you are doing giving any satisfaction to you? you are doing the same thing again and again as if you have become mentally retarded…
Seeker 2: Is this giving happiness? What sorts of happiness?
Where is this all leading to?
Seeker 2: At the end of ONE day, we all have to leave
this place., by being disciplined. Doing good…learning good things. do you want
to find a way of reaching the abode of Lord Vishnu…or…
Seeker 2: By being too materialistic like…I have to buy
this house…I am to earn this much…I have to buy that car…I have to buy
this…I have to buy that…I have to buy luxuries for my family and well-wishers…
Seeker 2: Eat this…eat that…eat whatever I feel like
that satisfies my palate…
Seeker 2: You have this…I have that. I will show off my
possessions to people around me but that only gain you jealousy and envy…
Seeker 2: What is going to come to you finally? Are these
“possessions” of yours really yours??? What is really going to come
to with you at the end?
Seeker 2: How you have lived…How has been your life…Has
anyone really benefited from your gestures that transformed them, that made you
live in their heart forever like a guardian angel? He introduces you to his
friends and well-wishers…saying…”I have been with this person…What I am now is
because of him”…Have you made anyone tell like this about you? Then what
has been the purpose of your life? What is going to happen after you are no
longer there? What are the people going to talk about you then?
Seeker 2: Goats, cows, pigs etc. eat well…sleep
well…procreate well…know how to defend…are you being born as a human
being only to do this in a much more sophisticated manner?
Seeker 2: Do you know how you have evolved into a human
being? These mundane things what you are doing now are being done by you in all
your life forms since ages…
Seeker 2: You have been provided intelligence…right?
right? Doing these same things, then what is the use of acquiring this human
birth after crossing all these life forms…
Seeker 2: Wealth, Work??? Can you do it honest in this
world? Everything is disguised cheating…. that causes heart-burns for so many
people and you are also not satisfied as well…
Seeker 2: This is Karmic influence…you have to face it…Will
it go? What is going to happen after THAT day…Is atma (soul) like a
stone etc. that is made from 5 material elements to also disappear??? atma is
life particle…atma is eternal…and that keeps transmigrating…
Seeker 2: The Supreme Lord thinks this way…Atma , you moved away from Me…you wanted an
identity…to dominate material nature… “thinking” I know how to live on my
own…the material nature is mine and is for mine…this body is mine…this is
my wife…my kid…my house…my nation…my earth…
Seeker 2: Krishna asks…What is yours???? For how
long? What did you bring in when you
came into this world? From previous births…t is just continuing from there.
What else you had? Understand that..your being is now like a dog…just for the
sake of living a livelihood and seeking petty pleasures, you didn’t seek to learn
good things…forget what is needed. Forget your own self…
Seeker 2: Forgot that the atma is in your body…you forget
even that…you get attached to false conceptions and feelings that this is my
body…she is my wife and so on.. The body that is made of 5 elements. What is
going to happen. How will atma go out on this body on THE day…it can
only go through the nine holes (two holes in the western side…mouth..nostrils,
eyes and ears). If you don’t realise yourself before the time of your death…
Seeker 2: Why being born again as to do what you have been
doing before? What are the things that has come to you as of now, at this
point, that were with you since the time of your birth? everything is
changing…what is staying the same from birth to death? Its only the atma that
is dwelling in your body that stays unchanged throughout…
Seeker 2: How did the atma acquire this very body? Have you
ever thought about it? It had been in various bodies earlier. Even now this
atma could have been in any body…be it in a coconut tree, snake, demon etc.
but what made it chose this very body of yours to stay? Won’t you think about
it?
Seeker 2: For this sake only, God has provided intelligence
to “human beings”…but what are you using it for? watching some junk stupid
movies and third-rated soaps…indulge in all sorts of habits, useless idle
talks, gossip and pomp…eating all sorts of obnoxious stuff and spend time in
cooking them and discussing about them as well… ☹
Seeker 2: Without even realising what the gunas of the food that
you eat are the ones that drives your thought process, character, your
intelligence and your way of life…you spin like a wheel running around…
Seeker 2: Everything starts from what you eat…food
constituents are split into 2 parts…one part for energy to drive all physical
activities. The remaining part? What it does do you know. You think eating this
will build muscles, that will improve eyesight etc. But for how
long..50yrs+???..wont the aging process take over?
Seeker 2: Skin starts to lose its lustre…eyesight fades…ear doesn’t hear properly…whatever you have been eating so far…Will you be able to eat them for life. Your doctor says eat without salt…reduce fats…reduce sugars…having eaten all obnoxious foodstuffs so far to satisfy your tongue…and thinking only food is life…you ask yourself how you will be able to stop it suddenly?…then you start to think…why should I live…are you living just for eating?
Seeker 2: In olden days rishis, munis, gyanis have
told…written Ramayana.Mahabharata…puranas etc. and for Tamils, the Tamil Veda…Thirukural…leaving
these things…what you guys are reading…how to influence others. How to be successful
in business…these are required…no doubt…but this is not all…
Seeker 2: What is required for good living? You people leave this…what is good…what is bad…how to live…how not to live…not thinking like that…hear from junk and degenerated people with all sorts of vices and bad habits…if you don’t know anything…even if some idiots says something it becomes Vedanta to you. Are these things not worth thinking about?
Seeker 2: ..or for the remaining part of your life. Do you
want to do the same thing…running around here and there without any
use…expecting flattery for whatever you do…What are you having for lunch…Shall
we go to this hotel…How is this cinema…How is this TV serial? How much this
guy score in that match… What is this
all going to lead to? Think! if you think what I am saying is good for you.
start with books…
Seeker 2: for example. Start with Thirukural. If you don’t
know Tamil. Do you know that Thirukural has been translated into at least 80-90
languages worldwide…you don’t have to do anything like learning all the 1330
couplets…just take any from the first 500..you may even take it some random
page…there is something in everything there for life…you just need to take
your preferred language and just READ.
Seeker 2: You complain…I lost my job…I fought with
wife…i don’t know how to reconcile…my kid is not obeying me…my kid is not
studying…my kid is roaming around…if we are
disciplined…why the kid will not be obedient or wayward? we are not
obedient ourselves…but worry about our kid…what will happen to him. How
will he study…how will he succeed…?
Seeker 2: Already God has carved a path for everyone based
on our past karma and what we do in this life…so what will we do. We don’t
even know what is in store for tomorrow. Then why think about your kid so much
???…he will do…he will study. If kids are undisciplined…so are we…!
Seeker 2: We leave our parents alone in their old age either
in “homes” or get themselves solitary confined in their own home…your
family…your wife and kids live in a different place…you live in a different
place…your parents sweated out and shed blood for you to bring you up…you
forget what they did for you…
Seeker 2: You say…they are old…I can’t even take care of
my kid. You listen to your wife for all her idiosyncrasies. If her family come
to your house you buy everything for them and make them happy. I am just saying
what is happening you have to judge it yourself…
Seeker 2: I don’t even bother whether this happen or doesn’t
happen with you…you see everything that is happening around you but if you agree
to this or not…it’s just your discretion…
Seeker 2: I don’t have anything to gain or lose…that you
guys listen to me for this long I treat this as a blessing and some sort of an
achievement…I am just telling what I think and also many are my own personal
experiences that I I am talking about…
Seeker 2: At the present state of world affairs, if you
think even 10% – 15% of what I said as truth or fact or if it makes some sense
to you…I think that would be a big happiness to me…
Seeker 2: …or I would have to take this like this…you
people tend to watch at least 3 or 4 TV serials daily that are total time
wasters anyways…and there is only negative takeaway from them…I would think
this like that…that’s all…people cannot change themselves and would always want
to remain like status quo…it is their destiny…
Seeker 2: Thank you very much for the opportunity to share
my thoughts. I hope all will be good to everyone…understand people…life and
its importance…
(The above audio is my voice is in my mother tongue, Tamil Language)
The below conversation is after the recording and before
parting our ways…
Seeker 1: Phew…that was too much…really a pleasure to be
able to listen to you…looks like you covered the basic principles of Gita and
Bhagavatham in just around 20 minutes.
Seeker 2: 😊 there is a lot to talk…I just didn’t want to
divert from your question too much.
Seeker1: Yes, you were very much to the point…very subtle
but thought-provoking…
Seeker 2: It’s just my longing that people lead a more basic
and disciplined life and get contented with what they have. Pretty hopeful this
will happen at least to those who are inclined for it.
Seeker 1: Yes! You are right. I have to thank you again for
suggesting this make-shift arrangement for this “interview” 😊
Seeker 2: It’s my pleasure!
Seeker 1: நன்றி!
மீண்டும் சந்திப்போம்! (Thank you! We will meet again!)